THE ADULT FILM INDUSTRY NEEDS TO BE BURNED DOWN!

THE ADULT FILM INDUSTRY NEEDS TO BE BURNED DOWN! - ANGRYGIRL FEMINIST.COM

The media has a colorful way of distorting the truth and lying basically about people, white people who work in the dirtiest industry of film making which is pornography. There is nothing but pure SCUM in that business. I'm not sure what word could actually describe the filth that surfaces from the black abyss, because nothing good comes from that shit other than drug abuse - suicides - and death. The entire business needs to be burned to the ground. I do find it ironic the majority of older companies are run by older white men who are Jewish, the same as the mainstream movie industry. Of course, both share common factors of rape - drug abuse and child molesters. The difference is the pornography business is an easier target to persecute and go straight to fucken prison where all the disgusting parasites belong. As I learned recently this white trash whore is now dead, but the media makes such a big deal about it, as if she was so important. Cindy Taylor was not important just another white trash skank who was a drug addict and never worked an honest job in her life, but she gets praise for being white trash!  AKA Jessie James 43 years old how pathetic. Frankly, I thought Jenna Jameson would have been dead by now another STUPID BITCH who had it all and pissed it all away because of her addictions and just being a fucken loser! Actually, she is on her way out. These white whores are the biggest losers and yet let's glorify them and boost their low morale because the white people need attention regardless of what they have done in their lives, the dirtier the better. Yet white women talk shit about women of color? When you white bitches are the biggest fuck ups! LOW DEGRADING WHITE TRASH!!!

CINDY TAYLOR WAS WHITE TRASH WHORE WHO CARES SHE IS DEAD!

Who cares they are dead and I won't care when JAMESON DIES I already knew she was NEVER GOING TO SEE HER BOYS grow up. I already knew she would screw it all up. Yet the media still writes about her. I found an article once in which a Korean girl was writing about how she had 33 million dollars. That bitch got screwed over financially by her ex-husband Jay Grdina. Another piece of shit but let's have him on Wikipedia because he is white and important, no he really isn't!  He is a fucken loser and never did anything that meant anything good in life! As for Jameson, I had to reply with a nasty email telling this stupid journalist that bitch didn't have 33 million cents to her name. If she did she wouldn't have been sleeping on the floor at that apartment her ex-boyfriend was paying 2000 grand for. When I noticed the pictures she was showing, I knew right away she was near Fairfax at the Grove. They were apartments above a whole food market. Jenna never had money she could have had a secure life with that idiot she got pregnant from, Ortiz but she screwed that up too.

Working in that sleazy flea-infested business your self-worth hits rock bottom. It is a dirty ass shit business that has your soul in a compromising situation that these fucked up people can't see. I'm not surprised Cindy Taylor is dead or that she was an OKIE FROM OKLAHOMA. Of course, all white people are or their from Ohio coming out of that sleazy dark hole of a business. Periodicals such New York Times and People magazine need to scrape up trash to write about so let's make sure it's about white people because I'm confident this crap magazine knows it's always white people who are at the bottom of pits with problems. I don't give a fuck these whores are dead let her rot in her grave. If you don't care enough about yourself or your life then you got what was coming. I don't feel sorry for people like this they are self-destructive.  This film business scars your life forever. Men who work in it are the lowest animals on the planet. All of these people more than 50 percent have died in different ways or their lives were completely destroyed so don't feel sorry for them. If a person chooses to put themself in that situation they shouldn't be surprised when it blows up in their face. WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE POISON THAT PISSES ON HUMANITY SO WHO CARES IF THEY DIE!

JEENA JAMESON IS WHITE TRASH AND NOW DYING OF AIDES












Why feel sorry for them? Ortiz was an idiot self-absorbed gorilla who made a good living but thinks he can turn a white trash whore into a house mom. Yeah, that didn't work out too well for you did it? And Jenna was left with nothing, it's a good thing Ortiz never married her because that would have been worse. Jenna Jameson is a loser and ungrateful for what she did have. All she had to do was be a mother and be a good wife grow the fuck up and she had a secure home with a man who had money, but it's not in her to do that.  She was garbage from the start and the men she was with USED HER for MONEY LIKE A PIMP because she allowed herself to be a slave and ruined her life now she is dying of AIDS! She has repeated history just as her mother did and her father couldn't care less. He did nothing for her as she grew up to protect her or educate her. I wouldn't be surprised if her father raped her when she was a kid.

When you are young and beautiful the predators come out because this life is filled with SCUM AND CHILD PREDATORS who want to hurt you. When you are grown up enough to know better you should protect yourself at all costs. Men in society will always use girls and women to pimp out. The goal is to use you if they can to make money off of you. Families pimp out their daughters to older men who have money and they ruin your life by keeping you imprisoned or pregnant. Every fucken male who works in this sleazy flea-infested shit business is below SCUM (INCLUDING MIKE SOUTH) WHITE TRASH HILLBILLY!! Stay far away from this shit. It will have a choke hold on you destroy your life and tear out your soul, and so will prostitution because that's all it is.

8675 APPIAN WAY IN LOS ANGELES

8675 APPIAN WAY IN LOS ANGELES LOOKOUT MOUNTAIN - ANGRYGIRL FEMINIST.COM

Not so long ago I blogged about how Mario Romero and Nelly Hoffman stole the property at 8675 Appian Way in Los Angeles, and they did, it's true. Recently I decided to hunt down Bernadette Smith because she had listed herself as the Notary. She is Nelly Hoffman's friend who had written up all the FRAUD PAPERWORK to have the sale of the property appear legit. Bernadette Smith had listed herself as the "escrow agent," which I am not sure if that is a conflict of interest or not? Bernadette soon disappeared once Nelly and her nephew Mario had the property. She also chose not to renew her license as a Notary, which was convenient for her. So let me indulge you in the goings on at Appian Way called "Look Out Mountain". I met Todd Taylor over 10 years ago. Todd grew up in the Hollywood Hills and told me of his life and the pain he suffered growing up with his father Wayne Taylor being the DRUG KING of the Hollywood Hills. Wayne Taylor worked as an actor on the side, it was his primary front for being a drug dealer, but the neighbors were all too happy to have him aboard,   and many of the actors in the business he befriended were his long-time customers. Some of which you might be familiar with, just to name a few,   Chaka Khan - Eric Estrada - Tony Curtis - Frank Sinatra - Lorenzo Lamas, and many others. 

TODD TAYLOR PLAYING HOCKEY

Todd was just a baby at the time his parents split. Barbra, Todd's mother was not stable when she met Wayne Taylor, they did marry, but she soon wanted to leave as the arguing escalated. Wayne had more money and authority at the time and took Todd away from his mother.  How Wayne raised and cared for a baby I have no idea, but it couldn't have been good. I just believe that Todd was born a strong person to endure all the abuse and it was a horrible nightmare no child deserved. Wayne worked a lot in the industry when he was young, but as Todd grew older, he loved hockey, he could have gone pro, he was that good, but he was sabotaged by the other players. His father subjected him to drugs all his life since he was very young, so when he played Hockey at the age of 12, he was high most of the time. Then Wayne taught Todd how to drive a car just for the convenience of using him to deliver to his customers. During this time, he met Frank Sinatra at his Palm Springs home. Todd described walking into his home as interesting, every man there was dressed well in a suit, appearing like the MAFIA. Wayne, his son's name and credit, he used for everything, including his dope dealings. He stole his social security number and ran his credit, then he would turn around and tell Todd to file bankruptcy. He used his name for everything, so Wayne didn't have to tarnish his reputation or name, he used his son for all his dirty deeds.  Todd didn't know anything about credit or basic stuff growing up, but that is true for anyone until you learn.  He never finished school until he went to prison. It's strange to me when I look back on everything and how far away it all seems, but I still find myself crying and missing him knowing I couldn't change or take away his pain.

Todd mentioned how he used to go to Tony Curtis's home in Bel Air and he caught him with a toto on dancing around for a man when he had to deliver cocaine. He attended Tony Curtis's home one Christmas and was hurt emotionally because everyone was given a gift but Todd. Shit like that is something kids don't forget. Wayne started off selling weed, but when cocaine hit society like a tidal wave, it was a big deal, and that's when the money came rolling in, but so did the problems.  There was ongoing sexual and physical abuse, it came primarily from Wayne's girlfriend sexually abusing Todd when he was a child. He did tell me how a few men who were his father's clients and they too were actors tried to make sexual advances on him but he ran away and stayed clear of it (TODD HATED FAGS AND SO DO I) this man was one of them. Roscoe Lee Brown

CYNTHIA TAYLOR LIVES IN WEST HOLLYWOOD AND DRUG WHORE METH JUNKIE

As Todd grew older into his teens, he was fed up with Wayne beating him and at this point, he couldn't take it anymore as Todd was nearly a man. The tables turned on Wayne and Todd finally whaled on his father and beat the shit out of him and told him if he ever touched him again he would kill him. He hated him that much. His father never touched him again. Todd had no life and was raised with nothing but abuse and drugs. Wayne had numerous girlfriends over the years and at one point his grandma had to live with them because she was getting old and had no one to help her. She never used to drink but found herself becoming an alcoholic once she was living at her son's house. Todd had many girlfriends living with him off and on. I remember he told me of this one girlfriend who was high and sitting on the balcony looking down, and she fell all the way down onto the concrete and cracked her head like an egg. Another gal was living with Todd and had a son but her brother was the District Attorney at the time (I can't remember the name), and he found out about the Taylor House and threatened his sister, he would take her son away for good if she didn't leave, so she left.  The police would raid the house every week, but they couldn't do anything since Wayne was a homeowner. He paid for the house and paid his taxes, so they couldn't force him to leave. The neighbors couldn't do anything either. Carol King used to live close by and her daughters would hang out with Todd to do drugs. Their father Gerry Goffin was a heroin user and druggie but not because of his neighbor, he was already doing his own thing.

CYNTHIA TAYLOR IS POISON STAY AWAY FROM HER SHE WILL RUIN YOUR LIFE!
Now at this point, Wayne had a brother named Billy Taylor and he had a daughter named Cynthia. Her mother was dead, of course, a drug addict. Billy and Wayne were always in competition with each other about who could make more money and sell the most drugs. Since Billy was a white man, people would ignorantly trust him to rent houses in Beverly Hills. Billy did live there but would always get busted and eventually thrown out by the owners.  Now Cynthia is a "white trash whore" and meth addict. She was worse than her father was and had five children and ruined their lives. The two boys are in prison now with their lives ruined for murder because of her. One child was taken away, one child died, and one girl ran away and now lives a good normal life in Hawaii. She realized how horrible her mother was and used her brains to escape. Thank God something good came from it all. Despite everything, when I knew Todd he was a good man and had a good heart, he was caring and never went out of his way to hurt people, considering all the abuse he was subjected to. When I met him, he just wanted love, something he never knew or was ever given. Billy was always threatening Todd so they had a volatile relationship, and Cynthia was no better she would lie and manipulate Todd and use him whenever she got into trouble to get her out. Cynthia is still alive and cunt. She enjoys meddling in people's affairs, she has no money and is one step away from living on the streets.

So, to fast forward, Todd was in and out of prison most of his adult life, when he was a child, he mentioned how the school would question him about his father but he never gave him up. The one true love he had was a young girl named Judy Clayton, but at the time Todd was 15 years old and Judy was 21.  Judy was living with an older guy in the hills, how they met I'm not sure, but he was a manager for Denny's restaurant, and she hated the man she was living with. Judy seduced Todd so she could leave this guy and she did, and went to live with Todd and his father. Why she didn't live at home because her natural father was a child molester and her mother was a cunt who refused to protect her daughters and have this pig arrested. Her father molested her and her sisters. One of the sisters became a lesbo and the others escaped. WHAT IS IT ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE WHO SEXUALLY ABUSE THEIR CHILDREN? A PERSON HAS TO BE A SICK FUCK TO DO THIS TO THEIR OWN CHILD!!

Judy lived with Todd for a few years and he did love her but she was a hooker (escort) and did nails on the side to make a living. Todd didn't realize how she was able to get her own place until I mentioned to him she was escorting after the many interesting facts he provided. He described to me how he caught her with some politician once walking in the park and he punched the guy in the face out of jealousy. I had to explain to Todd that people who work at nail and hair shops work on commission. Judy needed to make serious money to afford her own place, he was probably a client. She lived out in the valley for a short time, and was in and out of his life, which he was sick of after the last time he saw her.  By now Judy would have to be close to 70 years of age if she is still alive.  Before Todd died, he heard she had married a cop and had a daughter but that didn't work out. Who knows what became of Judy Clayton's penthouse pet!

The years I spent with Todd were hard until he died three years ago so I have a lot to be fucken angry about because of those corrupt state agencies. This is how I know from experience the corrupt nation of the MAFIA who sits on their ass in the WHITE HOUSE and the VATICAN is nothing more than abuse and corruption. 

All corporations are filled with child molesters and abusers on every level and prison is just slavery. The white race is the one who has inflicted abuse - sexual abuse - drugs - war - and violence within institutions onto families. Let us not forget within society the war is waged against humanity. If you need help from your local hospital in hopes of getting help, it doesn't exist! No one gives a fuck if you are sick or will die. Agencies collect millions claiming to help the unfortunate and people who pay premiums. Insurance denies claims to pocket the rewards and give the people the leftovers, or throw them to the side and out the door and wait until they die! This is why BRIAN THOMPSON WAS MURDERED!!! AS HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR MANY DEATHS!!!

I am almost done writing my book, and the experiences of the corruption from the agencies and abuse from this body of criminals calling themself a government. I don't regret my time with Todd, I made the choice and realized all the mistakes that came with it. He never did drugs after I met him and we went through a lot together. I got to know the real Todd Taylor, the loving kind person that he was. His family never gave a fuck, but that is typical of white families! Politicians have torn families apart, but we humans have allowed ourselves to fall into their traps. Todd was never given a chance or a choice, it's all he knew, and that pain and trauma haunted him until he died. Especially murders that took place in the house, which you will have to wait until I release the book to know what happened.

I followed Nelly Hoffman and Mario Romeo all this time. I know where they live and what they have done. For a long time, they couldn't sell the property until Pete Castro purchased it last. I sent him an email telling him he got screwed and should have never done business with those fucken thieves. He ignored me and what I found out recently is this KENDALL CORNELL NOW OWNS IT. I called to leave messages but she's ignorant and refuses to listen. The ground is soiled the house was torn down years ago but there have been serious homicides - suicides - drug dealing and all kinds of horrible shit. These ignorant morons don't want to listen, so whatever. The ground is cursed and tainted, nothing will grow - nothing good will come from owning it and they were STUPID TO BUY IT!  I went to Appianway after Todd died and poured a solvent on the ground which I made. The property is cursed, I can curse anyone or anything, and with everything else that has happened, it's not hard. If anyone chooses to build on it, it will fail and people could die. There is no point in building or owning AppianWay on Lookout Mountain with its BLACK HISTORY OF MURDER - SUICIDE, AND DRUG DEALINGS.

8675 APPIAN WAY HAS A DARK HISTORY OF MURDER AND DRUG DEALINGS

THE DEVIL IS NOT THE PROBLEM, THE WHITE MAN IS!

THE DEVIL IS NOT THE PROBLEM, THE WHITE MAN IS - ANGRYGIRL FEMINIST.COM

In society and among the millions of people who have collective power and refuse to use it is disappointing. It sickens me to know that those same people are unwilling to push the political establishment when the white man and those who are not white are abusing children and human beings of all ages. Yet AMERICA and around the globe people are sell-outs endorsing FaceBook and other online platforms knowing of the child abuse and human trafficking going on. And why? Because no one wants to lose their position on the platform. Different groups of people will fight with each other bitching and complaining, gossiping and cursing one another but they won't fight the criminals and sex offenders in the white house. What is wrong with this picture? Why are people too afraid to stand up for themself? And yet your claiming AMERICA is your country?

True evil is not in the denizens of the Abyss it's right here in America and all over the world killing people and abusing children every day. This is how fucked up society and the people in it, really are. I don't participate in social media because I am against child abusers and sex offenders and people like Mark Zuckerberg and his cunt of a wife who is not an American are GUILTY OF CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN. That scumbag Combs Diddy is supposedly in jail as he should be, but not the white man Mark Zuckerberg the judge dismissed his ass today, and why? Because he's white and white people usually get away with murder and sexually offending children and this fucked up country of people refuses to do anything about it. Yet the church and all the stupid people in the world will freak out over the DEVIL without knowing anything about this DARK PRINCE, but those same losers will align themself and support child molesters like Zuckerberg and Bill Gates. These pieces of shit are the same in my eyes and all of them should be taken out for their crimes against humanity. The DEVIL is not the problem, the white man is!

CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY SHOULD NOT BE TOLERATED!

NEVER TRUST GOV GAVIN HE IS A LIAR

NEVER TRUST GOV. GAVIN HE IS A LIAR - ANGRYGIRL FEMINIST.COM
GAVIN KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT SACRIFICE IN THE MILITARY!

Recently numerous ads have been popping up on YouTube of Gov. Gavin with patronizing speeches of the military people who have sacrificed their lives. Yes, many have sacrificed, especially from the past more than the present, but how would Gavin know? How would you GAVIN know anything about people in the military, you being a white man who collects a phat paycheck and yet holds no accountability for anything? A white man who claims he believes in Democracy but has done nothing to prove his loyalty with actions. This entire country is a mess and you have done nothing to ensure the lives of the American people. Stop preaching about sacrifice when you have no comprehension of what sacrifice means. The military is the biggest threat to every man and woman with lies being told to those who join with false promises, no financial compensation will ever match what people have lost especially in battle. 

My father lost a lot because of Vietnam while you white men just sat on your ass, while people were being murdered so the white man could make a profit. I still remember my father's friend Ray, who lost both legs, an arm, and a hand, so don't talk about sacrifice, you PIECE OF SHIT!! You don't know the first thing about SACRIFICE!! My father had nothing to come home to and the only reason he joined was that he had no options (at least none that he knew of) why is that? Because the entire country was built and structured only so the white race could benefit from it and men of color would have less than half a chance to be in areas of education and business so white men would have fewer men to compete with. This entire structure is based on lies and racism to keep people of color down and when those human lives have nothing else only the small towns they grew up in, that are meant to stay impoverished. Those same young people who join the military find out the hard way, they're the lamb tied to the steak. STOP LISTENING TO GOV. GAVIN KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT THE MILITARY NOR DOES HE GIVE A FUCK!!! 

GAVIN IS A LIAR THIS SHIT GOV WILL HOUSE NO ONE! HE IS LYING!!
Let's not forget the pathetic excuses of those who could buy a home with a VA which makes it nearly impossible to be approved because of discrimination and racism for those who approve the loans. My father was never able to use his VA. He was never compensated for fucken thing, but the VNW affected his life so deeply. You Gavin don't give a dam about anyone, especially people in the military. You white men in politics are sucking up all the benefits, while people in the military get the leftovers. Of course, the white man in the military gets the high ranks and the perks compared to people of color, why not, it's all structured for you fucked up white people to stay at the top? It's always about the white man, isn't it?. You white men want to take the credit for everything in this country believing America belongs to you, it doesn't. Let's take a trip down memory lane, shall we? Let's see what the white race has done, enslaved people, murder for profit, human trafficked children, child molesters, and war criminals am I getting warm? Let's not forget the elites you shake hands with man-made viruses and dumping toxic chemicals in the atmosphere. Yeah, you're a democratic alright. STOP BELIEVING IN GAVIN HE PASSED A BILL SO PEOPLE WHO OWN LAND CAN USE IT TO HOUSE THE UNFORTUNATE? YEAH RIGHT! FUCK YOU GAVIN YOU LYING SACK OF SHIT! THIS PROVES IT!

In addition to the pathetic military commercials, Gov Gavin has more patronizing ads of the homeless, "unfortunate" people who have no homes. Let's be clear about something because frankly I am fed up with fucken IGNORANCE of SOCIETY and it's bullshit! Assuming people are mentally retarded, people are too lazy to work a minimum wage fucken job (you need three to survive in this life). No those are not reasons, and it's so easy to target a "POWERLESS POPULATION" of people who have NO VOICE!!! So I am going to speak for them. A MASSACRE is going on in this country and all over the world. It's called GREED!!!! GREED SEEMS TO BE THE VIRUS OF THE NEW MILLENIA. Ruining the paper currency is an excuse to get rid of it. Injecting Drugs has always been a problem and politics are to blame! Funneling hate against all races of humans at each other throats, so none of us pay attention to the politics and elites' agenda of destruction. Digital Currency is the Biggest Fraud to leave all people without currency to live their lives or be able to earn a living. Elites buy up land so citizens won't have the opportunity to buy land. 

Keeping people impoverished with low social security insurance keeps us begging and scaping for help. Taxes are the biggest SCAM and FRAUD of all time to keep the rich, richer. Inflations pay for the DEBITS of politics rendering the rest of us to pay for overpriced goods and services, keeping us broke! Social Security is a SCAM as no one gets to retire, eventually, old people have to go back to work until they die! Politicians take huge chunks of cash from Social Security and still get their phat paychecks, just ask Bernie Sanders, for 250,000 salaries and $6000 in Social Security, or is 10,000 now Bernie? Keeping Americans and the human race ENSLAVED to the agenda of the rich. As I watched and listened to Gavin about the "unhoused population". Gavin is a LIAR and let me explain why I say this? He expressed an IGNORANT stigma of people who are unhoused by saying that everyone has MENTAL PROBLEMS. How the fuck do you know that? 

SCUM MANIFESTO GOV GAVIN IS A LYING SACK OF SHIT!


YOU ARE NOT A DOCTOR! YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MEANS OF MEASURING THE CAPACITY OF EVERY HUMAN BEING ON THE STREET OR THAT IS LIVING IN THEIR CAR. Plus the human brain CAN'T BE MEASURED!! YOU MORON. Thousands of people are unhoused and it's because of GREED!! And many other reasons. You don't know all those people who are unhoused so STOP!! Making VERBAL stigmas about the population!! Numerous people no longer have a home for various reasons: 1) Merks burning houses down (Hawaii) and other fires over the years. Why don't you burn down Beverly Hills or Crown Valley? How about Newport Beach? 2) People have lost jobs for whatever reason and can no longer afford homes especially with the bank ripping people off. 3) Divorce as this false Gov injects hate and other problems it infects families being torn apart. 4) People have sold everything they have to live on the land and are now told they can't live on the land they paid for. Or are being threatened with having their homes and land taken away. 5) Death and Job loss as it also causes people to lose what little crappy apartment they did have at overpriced fucken rent of $1800 for 450 square ft of space. 6) Natural Disasters which the Elites love when this happens to privatize, because those people never get new homes. They are pushed out and sent to other states (Hurricane Katrina). Have I missed anything because all these thousands of people losing their homes for many reasons are not because of irresponsibility, chance, or mental problems? It's Intentional! Let's not forget pushing the drug business, because BIG PHARMA IS THE BIGGEST DOPE DEALER ON THE PLANET! 

I will cover more about housing and how deliberately hard it is for those on the street to get housing. This man doesn't give a dam about Democracy he only cares about himself and now he has passed a bill, that allows people with commercial land to turn it into housing for the unfortunate. Yeah right. What's the catch because that isn't going to happen? You lying sack of shit!!!

This BILL is to give landlords cash to give developers the green light to use their land to build on, for those 15-minute cities the developers are inventing. Remember that those units will only be for those who can afford them. They look like modern - projects! However, if I had to guess I bet I know what could occur these people who have commercial land and their not doing anything with it, will be propositioned by developers or the false Gov and will be handed a PHAT INCENTIVE OF CASH. This incentive will be so the developers can build those crappy smaller units you see going up everywhere for the 15-minute neighborhoods. THE LIE WILL BE to help the unfortunate, to HELP those with no HOUSING, but it won't ever happen as always people get fucked, just like they always do!!

THIS IS A SCAM NOT PROPER HOUSING FOR THE POPLUATION
It's another fucken lie being told. This was the bullshit with many apartment buildings that were built in downtown Los Angeles decades ago using Gov. money in exchange for having Section 8 voucher tenants. Those buildings are considered 5-star units at $3000 a month or more and took Gov. money to get the units built. The deal is allowing low-income Section 8 housing for people who have vouchers when using Gov. Cash, BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE NEVER HOUSED OR ALLOWED IN, IT's AN EXCUSE!! This never happened because the managers are shit and blackball those people who apply or ignore you all together and then there is NOBODY to complain to. As long as owners get cash and developers get what they want, it's all good, and FUCK EVERYONE ELSE. UNDERSTAND THIS, THESE POLITICIANS DO NOT WANT TO HOUSE ANYONE. THE MEDIA LIES AND SO DOES GAVIN!